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<blockquote data-quote="Delfin" data-source="post: 851619" data-attributes="member: 2582"><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">Recopio este post (ya lo puse en dos threads distintos :yonofui:... me van a echar!)</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">Daniel: la maniobrabilidad es más importante en combate WVR (dogfight) pero en BVR... lo que define es la calidad del IRST, la calidad y cantidad de misiles (los MICA vienen en dos versiones: IR y Guía x Radar Activo) y los sistemas de autodefensa: sensores, contramedidas electrónicas (jammer), dispenser de bengalas y chaff... además de lo "furtivo" que sea su diseño (en esto el RAFALE le gana al Typhon por lejos!!!)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=168220&d=1230991296" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><img src="http://www.zona-militar.com/foros/highslide/graphics/warning.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></span><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><img src="http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=168220&d=1230991296" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></span></a></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">"The problem given by Rafale to other fighters is quite clear: Rafale is 4 1/2 generation fighter with 5 1/2 generation avionics . I wouldn 't be surprised if a Rafale vs F-35/F-22 scenario endup with the Dassault fighter winning the engagement . What do we have ? <strong>"Physical" Stealth</strong> in one hand and <strong>SPECTRA</strong> on the other . What do you bet on ? </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">Everybody 's got LPI radar (better range for the F-serie) but the passive detections of Rafale are second to none. If alerted , it could rely only to IRST ~<strong>50 km range</strong>~ and IR MICA ~same range~ salvo to destroy the opponent . Rafale is a Hell of a bird you know ... Cheers . "</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">Fuente: </span><a href="http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/6-16462.aspx" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="color: #800080">http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/6-16462.aspx</span></span></a></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="color: #800080"><a href="http://www.ttu.fr/francais/Articles/Resources/dscn3951.jpeg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.ttu.fr/francais/Articles/Resources/dscn3951.jpeg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">Conseguí una joyita (pero chiquitita...)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"></span><a href="http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1698/rafalefso.jpg" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><img src="http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1698/rafalefso.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></span></a></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">Ahhhh encontré más joyitas sobre el RAFALE (me vuelve a enamorar este bicho!)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">"On 11 of June the french CEAM (military air experimentation centre) successfully tested a new kind of shooting.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><strong>A Rafale F2 shot a target behind him (and killed it) thanks to data transmitted from another Rafale with Link 16.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">The missile used was a Mica EM (active radar seeker). This missile has thrust vector control and can be fitted indeferently with IIR or active radar seeker, and can be shot BVR (30 NM, maybe more, depending on launch conditions) or in close combat with a helmet cueing system.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">The Rafale has also recently demonstrated that it has multitarget capability in air to ground role, with AASM. It can shoot at 6 different targets in one pass. One of the firing was nearly 90° of aircraft flight path.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">The AASM is a kit with GPS guidance and rocket engine, fitted on Mk 82 bomb, giving it around 15 km range on low level firing and more than 50 km at high altitude."</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">Fuente: </span><a href="http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=942.0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><span style="color: #800080">http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=942.0</span></span></a></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">(no se pierdan las fotos!)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"></span><a href="http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=168219&d=1230991296" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'"><img src="http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=168219&d=1230991296" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></span></a> </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Delfin, post: 851619, member: 2582"] [FONT=Century Gothic]Recopio este post (ya lo puse en dos threads distintos :yonofui:... me van a echar!)[/FONT] [FONT=Century Gothic][/FONT] [FONT=Century Gothic]Daniel: la maniobrabilidad es más importante en combate WVR (dogfight) pero en BVR... lo que define es la calidad del IRST, la calidad y cantidad de misiles (los MICA vienen en dos versiones: IR y Guía x Radar Activo) y los sistemas de autodefensa: sensores, contramedidas electrónicas (jammer), dispenser de bengalas y chaff... además de lo "furtivo" que sea su diseño (en esto el RAFALE le gana al Typhon por lejos!!!) [/FONT] [CENTER][URL="http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=168220&d=1230991296"][FONT=Century Gothic][IMG]http://www.zona-militar.com/foros/highslide/graphics/warning.gif[/IMG][/FONT][FONT=Century Gothic][/FONT][FONT=Century Gothic][IMG]http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=168220&d=1230991296[/IMG][/FONT][/URL][/CENTER] [FONT=Century Gothic]"The problem given by Rafale to other fighters is quite clear: Rafale is 4 1/2 generation fighter with 5 1/2 generation avionics . I wouldn 't be surprised if a Rafale vs F-35/F-22 scenario endup with the Dassault fighter winning the engagement . What do we have ? [B]"Physical" Stealth[/B] in one hand and [B]SPECTRA[/B] on the other . What do you bet on ? Everybody 's got LPI radar (better range for the F-serie) but the passive detections of Rafale are second to none. If alerted , it could rely only to IRST ~[B]50 km range[/B]~ and IR MICA ~same range~ salvo to destroy the opponent . Rafale is a Hell of a bird you know ... Cheers . " Fuente: [/FONT][URL="http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/6-16462.aspx"][FONT=Century Gothic][COLOR=#800080]http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/6-16462.aspx[/COLOR][/FONT][/URL] [FONT=Century Gothic][COLOR=#800080][URL="http://www.ttu.fr/francais/Articles/Resources/dscn3951.jpeg"][IMG]http://www.ttu.fr/francais/Articles/Resources/dscn3951.jpeg[/IMG][/URL][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Century Gothic]Conseguí una joyita (pero chiquitita...) [/FONT][URL="http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1698/rafalefso.jpg"][FONT=Century Gothic][IMG]http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1698/rafalefso.jpg[/IMG][/FONT][/URL] [FONT=Century Gothic]Ahhhh encontré más joyitas sobre el RAFALE (me vuelve a enamorar este bicho!) "On 11 of June the french CEAM (military air experimentation centre) successfully tested a new kind of shooting. [B]A Rafale F2 shot a target behind him (and killed it) thanks to data transmitted from another Rafale with Link 16.[/B] The missile used was a Mica EM (active radar seeker). This missile has thrust vector control and can be fitted indeferently with IIR or active radar seeker, and can be shot BVR (30 NM, maybe more, depending on launch conditions) or in close combat with a helmet cueing system. The Rafale has also recently demonstrated that it has multitarget capability in air to ground role, with AASM. It can shoot at 6 different targets in one pass. One of the firing was nearly 90° of aircraft flight path. The AASM is a kit with GPS guidance and rocket engine, fitted on Mk 82 bomb, giving it around 15 km range on low level firing and more than 50 km at high altitude." Fuente: [/FONT][URL="http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=942.0"][FONT=Century Gothic][COLOR=#800080]http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=942.0[/COLOR][/FONT][/URL] [FONT=Century Gothic](no se pierdan las fotos!) [/FONT][URL="http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=168219&d=1230991296"][FONT=Century Gothic][IMG]http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=168219&d=1230991296[/IMG][/FONT][/URL][FONT=Century Gothic] [/FONT] [FONT=Century Gothic][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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