Contraparte rusa del SM-1MR

joseph

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Queria saber si los rusos hicieron algo parecido al SM-1MR, encontre el OSA-M pero no se si es la cantrapartida real si es que existe.

SM-1MR:



OSA-M:

 
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oficial_olfatin

Y los SA-N-3 GOA en las fragatas viejitas y en el Kiev

Saludos
 

joseph

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Marcos dijo:
El Shtil/Uragan de los Destructores Pr 968 Sarich/Sovremenny

¿El Shtil es un lanzador de misiles recargable no?

Por lo que aberigue el nuevo Yezh serie la contraparte más cercana al Sm-1mr

Shtil:

 
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oficial_olfatin

podrias decirme el nombre de ese misil ??
Digo modelo

SAludos
 

joseph

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Se llama Yezh pero la OTAN lo llama SA-N-12 GRIZZLY, es igual al SA-17 o SA-N-7 por fuera.
 
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oficial_olfatin

Ahh, si lo conozco, pense que el SA-N-12 era el S-300F de lanzamiento vertical

Saludos
 
Shtil

Los rusos tienen una nueva version del Shtil, la cual es la contraparte del SM-1

Russia moves to vertical-launch Shtil

Miroslav Gyürösi

Russia is offering a vertical-launch (VL) version of the Shtil-1 naval surface-to-air missile (SAM) system, writes Miroslav Gyürösi. The move from a system based on trainable launchers to one based on below-deck VL modules is similar to that taken by the US Navy in the mid-1980s when it switched from a Mk 26 trainable launcher to a VL system for the sixth and subsequent Ticonderoga-class Aegis cruisers.

Russian Public Joint Stock Company DNPP (Dolgoprudnenskoye naucsno - proizvodstvennoye predpriyatie), which is part of the Almaz-Antey Air Defence Concern, developed the new 9M317ME SAM as an upgrade for the Shtil-1 naval air-defence system. Developed by the Altair Naval Radio Electronics Scientific Institute Public Joint Stock Company, which is also a member of the Almaz-Antey Air Defence Concern, Shtil-1 is an improved version of the earlier Shtil system that is the export variant of the M-22 Uragan system fitted to the Project 956 (Sovremenny-class) destroyers.

The 9M38 missile was developed in the 1970s to be a common round for the land-based 9K37 Buk (SA-11 'Gadfly') and naval Uragan/Shtil (SA-N-7 'Gadfly') system. It used a configuration similar to that of the US Standard Missile, with cruciform wings of long chord and short span, plus cruciform tail surfaces. In the land-based system, the 9M38 was fired from 9A38 and 9A310 self-propelled launch vehicles, while the naval Shtil and Shtil-1 systems used a trainable launcher fed by a below-deck loading system based on 12-cell drum magazines.

In the early 1990s, development started on an improved 9M317 missile able to replace the 9M38. This armed the Buk-M1-2 (SA-17 'Grizzly') system, which entered service with the Russian Army in 1998. The 9M317 was similar in configuration to the 9M38 but the cruciform wings were of much smaller chord and span.

The new 9M317ME missile is being marketed as a further development of the older 9M38 and 9M317 but the changes are on a scale that makes the round almost a new missile. It is designed to be fired from a cylindrical container/launcher mounted in a cell within the new Shtil-1 VL system. This arrangement provides a much higher rate of fire than the original trainable launcher and magazine system used in Shtil and Shtil-1. The latter could fire a missile every six seconds, but the 9M317ME-based system being offered for Sovremenny-class destroyers can fire rounds at one-to-two-second intervals.

The new launch technique has required drastic changes to the configuration of the missile. The long-chord wings have been replaced by vestigial fixed surfaces located not on the missile centrebody but near the rear of the airframe just ahead of the cruciform tail surfaces. These fixed surfaces may be intended to control the airflow passing the tail fins. The latter move to steer the missile - the same control scheme used on the 9M38 - but are folded to allow the round to be stored in the container/launcher.

The 9M317ME is 5.18 m long and 360 mm in diameter. The tail surfaces have a span of 820 mm when deployed.

After the round leaves the VL, a spring mechanism unfolds the tail surfaces and four gas-control vanes operating in the motor efflux turn the missile towards the required direction of flight. Once this turnover manoeuvre is completed, the gas-control vanes are no longer used. Subsequent flight control is via the moving tail surfaces.

A dual-mode solid-propellant rocket motor based on a more energetic charge than that used in the 9M38 provides the missile with a maximum speed of Mach 4.5 (1,550 m/s), a significant increase over the Mach 3.0 (1,230 m/s) of the older missile.

Guidance remains a combination of inertial and semi-active radar (SAR) homing. Inertial guidance is used in the early stages of flight and then the SAR seeker is activated to complete the interception. If the missile is being fired against long-range targets, it can receive mid-course updates while flying under inertial control. Launch weight of the 9M317ME is 581 kg. It is armed with a 62 kg warhead initiated by a dual-mode (active or semi-active) radar proximity fuze, or a contact fuze.

The range of the modernised Shtil-1 system is between 3.5-32 km, while the altitude coverage is from 5 m up to 15 km. These limits are set not by the performance of the missile but by the capabilities of the existing shipboard illuminating radars. This suggests further growth potential if the system is upgraded or if new radars are added.

The VL version of Shtil-1 is being offered for surface ships with displacement of more than 1,500 tonnes, providing protection against aircraft, helicopters, fast patrol boats and anti-ship missiles. It can also control the ship's guns. Publicly, no claims are being made for an anti-ballistic missile (ABM) capability, but the land-based 3M317 missile is reported to have successfully engaged Smerch artillery rockets and a ballistic missile during tests conducted in the mid-1990s. The VL system's ability to cope with tactical ballistic-missile threats may be limited by the performance of the existing shipboard radars.

The basic VL module contains 12 9M317ME missiles but, as with the unmodified Shtil and Shtil-1 systems, the upgrade is being offered in a series of optional configurations, which add greater numbers of MR-90 Orekh ('Front Dome') target-illumination radars and additional VL modules. All variants use target information from the ship's 3D surveillance radar.

Vertical-launch Shtil-1 configurations

Technical characteristic Option number
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Reaction time, [seconds] 5 - 10 5 - 10 5 - 10 5 - 10 5 - 10 5 - 10 5 - 10 5 - 10
Firing interval [seconds] 2 - 3 2 - 3 2 - 3 1 - 2 1 - 2 1 - 2 1 - 2 1 - 2
Number of target channels 2 4 4 6 8 8 10 12
Magazine capacity [rounds] 12 24 36 48 - 72 72 108 108 - 144 144
Number of VL modules 1 2 3 4 - 6 6 9 9 - 12 12
 

joseph

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oficial_olfatin dijo:
Ahh, si lo conozco, pense que el SA-N-12 era el S-300F de lanzamiento vertical

Saludos

Por lo que lei el S-300 naval solo se puede meter en buques grandes de más de 7000 ton.

Otro punto es que el Shtil tambien serviria como misil anti-misil y antibuque. ¿No se si el SM-1MR tambien puede hacer eso?
 
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SnAkE_OnE

que yo sepa el Sea Dart tiene versiones Superficie Superficie y Superficie Aire tambien
 
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oficial_olfatin

Lamentablemente si usas un Sea Dart como antibuque necesitas como 6 de estos para hundir un buque "normal"

Saludos

p.d: la familia Standard tambien sirve como ASUW
 

KF86

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Mucha comparacion con el SM-1, pero no hay equivalente al SM-4 LASM de lanzamientod esde bodegas que modificandole el sistema propulsor puede pasar de 80 km de alcance a mas de 300 km o para ser mas heavys el SM-6 Block 1 pero estara recien para el 2011
 

joseph

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KF86 dijo:
Mucha comparacion con el SM-1, pero no hay equivalente al SM-4 LASM de lanzamientod esde bodegas que modificandole el sistema propulsor puede pasar de 80 km de alcance a mas de 300 km o para ser mas heavys el SM-6 Block 1 pero estara recien para el 2011

Recorda que el alcance adicional se llogra usando un cohete propulsor extra del doble de tamaño del misil en si colocado por detrás, además que la L de LASM es de Land por lo que no es AA.
Por otro lado no era que los misil AA de muy largo alcance no eran muy efectivos.
 
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